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Dysprosium: radioactively stable,it has 5 isotopes Dy-160, 161, 162, 163 and 164.  It is one of the best choices for detecting the neutrons depending on high neutron capture in the energy range of interest.
 
Dysprosium: radioactively stable,it has 5 isotopes Dy-160, 161, 162, 163 and 164.  It is one of the best choices for detecting the neutrons depending on high neutron capture in the energy range of interest.
  
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Revision as of 14:14, 3 April 2009

Haithem's logbook for developing neutron sensitive TGEM detector


1/23/09

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Generic SideView GEMDetector.jpg

1.) Search the web for patent which coats GEM detector with neutron sensitive materials. I think it is for Thermal neutrons.


Materials of high neutron capture cross section are studied widely, an example is the following patent [[1]]


Most of the high neutron capture cross section materials were measured for different neutron energies. A comprehensive work is published in 2000. The project was supported by Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute and Brookhaven National Laboratory [[2]]

U-235 is the one of the best choices since it has a high neutron fission cross section and a long half life compared to other the other isotopes that may come under choice.

A second choice is Th-238 and U-238 which have fission cross section less than that of U-235 but still good for our experiment.[[3]]



A boron coated GEM foil is being made by the company below http://n-cdt.com/

Another method uses BF3.

We are interested in a fissionable material coated onto the copper foils that is thin enough to allow the fission fragments to escape the foil and ionize the gas in the detector.


2.) Search for companies which use either sputtering or coating technology to apply the above material to caopper PCboards with hole int them such that the material does not fill up the hole. Hole diameter = ?

The material sputter onto the copper would have thickness on the order of Angstroms.

The TGEM PCboard would have a surface area of 10 cm x 10 cm.

3.) Current neutron efficiency plots for several detector

NeutronDetectionEfficiency-vs-Energy He3 Tube PND INL.jpg

Media:NeutronDetectionEfficiency-vs-Energy_Ne-213_BaF.pdf

NeutronDetectionEfficiency-vs-Energy BC-408 Scintillator.jpg

NeutronDetectionEfficiency-vs-Energy GEM BoronCoatedFoil Neutron Efficiency.jpg

1/30/09

1.) Investigate if Thorium Oxide will be a good candidate for the fission chamber. You would use electrolysis to coat a TGEM board.

Ways to make thorium fission chamber

2.) Find reference for THGEM9, this was used to determine optimal THGEM design 2 years ago

GEM-copper plate has dimensions of 3X3cm or 10X10cm with thinkness 5 micrometer copper layers.It has holes with diameter 60-80 micrometer.(From Operation of a triple GEM detector with CsI photocathode in pure BF4)

2/6/09

Thin deposition ThO2 molecular plating


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TJM-4S03R9J-C&_user=489297&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000023739&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=489297&md5=cd4314aa4ce529c19369900da39fbbe1

2/13/09

Check if the people below can deliver Th coated Al or Cu sheets , coating thickness smaller than 5 micron, the thinner the better. http://www-wnt.gsi.de/tasca/

2/20/09

2.5 x 2.5 cm thorium coated TGEM cards coated by ISU chemistry.

chemistry Department cant not do the sputtering for safety purposes, they like to avoid radiation contamination.

Need a mask for the predrilled TGEM cards to prevent Thorium from entering holes


Radioactive waste procedure if we are allowed to sputter in chemistry.


Write report describing the process we want to do.

ThoriumPlatingTGEMproposal

Radioactiving of Thorium may be a stumbling blog because of waste generated.

If we go for non-radioactive materials look up fission X-sect for Bismuth and Dysprosium

Fission cross section for Bi starts to be effective when the neutron energy is more than the range of interest.

Neutron induced fission cross section for Bi.jpg


Dy-isotopes are very good for absorbing neutrons in the range between 0.01- 10 MeV.

Dy neutron cross sections.jpg

Media:Zaidi_RadChem_vol93_2005.pdf

2/27/09

1.) Dysprosium (Dy) makes a lot of gammas and maybe 100 less alphas


2.) Don't give up trying to make thorium coated materials

try to send e-mail to one of these authors

N. Takahashi, Zeitschrift für Physik A Hadrons and Nuclei Volume 353, Number 1 / March, 1995

3.) Fission cross-section n,f for Tb

3/13/09

1.) look for a company that does resistive evaporative coatings

This company sells the machine http://www.lesker.com/newweb/Deposition_Sources/ThermalEvaporationSources_Resistive.cfm

2.)(n,f) X-sect for Dysprosium (Dy) ?

3.) Reference [J.C. hadler, Radiation Measurements Vol 43 (2008) pf S334-S336] says

  1. R = 14 \mu m = mean range of fission fragment6s in U_3 O_8
  2. R= 12 um for UO_3
  3. 0.1 um thickness U( Th) will reduce mean length of fission tracks by 2%

4.) Plot N -vs- d using Equation 2 of Reference [J.C. hadler, Radiation Measurements Vol 43 (2008) pf S334-S336]

5.) Thorium and thorium oxide thin films (19 to 61 nm thick) were RF-sputtered onto mirrors. RF sputtering onto copper plates?


The neutron fission cross sections of 92235U and 92238U between 0.3 and 12.5 MeV W W Osterhage et al 1978 J. Phys. G: Nucl. Phys. 4 587-595

http://www.inf.uu.se/Reports/publications.html

Neutron-induced fission cross sections of natPb and 197Au in the 45-180 MeV region, V.P. Eismont, A.V. Prokofiev, A.N. Smirnov, S.M. Soloviev, H. Condé, K. Elmgren, N. Olsson and P.-U. Renberg Conference Proc. ADTTA99, 1999, (in press).

Up-to-date status and problems of the experimental nucleon-induced fission cross section data base at intermediate energies, V.P. Eismont, A.V. Prokofiev, A.N. Smirnov, I.V. Ryzhov, G.A. Tutin, H. Cond, K. Elmgren, N. Olsson and P.-U. Renberg, Proc. ADTTA99, 1999, (in press).

Neutron-induced fission cross section ratios of 209Bi and 238U at 75 and 96 MeV, V.P. Eismont, A.V. Kireev, I.V. Ryzhov, S.M. Soloviev, G.A. Tutin, H. Condé, K. Elmgren, N. Olsson and P.-U. Renberg, Proc. ADTTA99, 1999, (in press).

Neutron-induced fission fragment angular distribution of 238U at 96 MeV, V.P. Eismont, A.V. Kireev, I.V. Ryzhov, S.M. Soloviev, G.A. Tutin, H. Condé, K. Elmgren, N. Olsson and P.-U. Renberg Proc. ADTTA99, 1999, (in press).

Measurements of neutron-induced fission cross sections of heavy nuclei in the intermediate energy region, V.P. Eismont, A.V. Prokofyev, A.N. Smirnov, K. Elmgren, J. Blomgren, H. Condé, J. Nilsson, N. Olsson and E. Ramström, Accelerator-Driven Transmutation Technologies and Applications, Kalmar, ed. H. Condé (Uppsala: Uppsala University, 1997) p 606-612.

4/2/09

Summury of events through the last two weeks:

1- Looking for a neutron fission cross section for Dyspromium.

2- Looking for other possile elements that can be sued beside our choices for Thorium and Dysprosium.
    these elemets should   have a high neutron cross for fission (n,f),(n,gamma),(n,p) or (n,alpha). 
3- Using Neutrons cross sections (by D. Hughes and R. Schwartz, 2nd edition, 1957) as comphensive reference for our choice.
  

Comparison between Thorium and Dysprosium

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Thorium: chacterized by relatively high neutron fission cross for both of its isotopes (Th-232 nad Th-230) compared to the stable elements but it is one of low fission cross sections compared to radioctive actinides. A lot of efforts are spent even in coating or finding the appropriate place or group to do that, since most of people are totally disencouraged to coat radioctive elements.

Table of different neutron fission cross 11MeV - 13 MeV.jpg Th-232 fission cross section.jpg


Dysprosium: radioactively stable,it has 5 isotopes Dy-160, 161, 162, 163 and 164. It is one of the best choices for detecting the neutrons depending on high neutron capture in the energy range of interest.

Total and capture neutron cross sections for dy- 160 until 20 mev.jpg Total and capture neutron cross sections for dy- 161 until 20 mev.jpgTotal and capture neutron cross sections for dy- 162 until 20 mev.jpg Total and capture neutron cross sections for dy- 163 until 20 mev.jpgTotal and capture neutron cross sections for dy- 164 until 20 mev.jpg

References

Media:Shalem_MSthesis_march2005.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3819 Dy photon gammas spectrum


http://www.ippe.obninsk.ru/podr/cjd/kobra13.php?SubentID=30974002

http://www.americanelements.com/thoxst.html

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0404119

Media:NIM_A535_2004_93.PDF[4]


File:NIM A590 2008 pg134 Eberhardt.pdf Prep Targets

Neutron cross sections for different elements Media:Neutron_cross_sections.pdf

http://www-nds.iaea.org/RIPL-2/


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