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It is noticed that increasing the voltage decreased the signal to noise ratio unless it is within the error bars, also increasing the voltage of the GEM from 2.87 to 2.97 kV does not affect the noise signal ratio, but it increases the charge detected which is expected as main characteristic for the GEM preamp. (results are same using both definitions of signal to noise ratio). | It is noticed that increasing the voltage decreased the signal to noise ratio unless it is within the error bars, also increasing the voltage of the GEM from 2.87 to 2.97 kV does not affect the noise signal ratio, but it increases the charge detected which is expected as main characteristic for the GEM preamp. (results are same using both definitions of signal to noise ratio). | ||
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12/31/14 Peak shift with changing the GEM preamp. Voltage
The following figures show the effect of opening and closing the shutter as the GEM voltage is 2.67, 2.87 and 2.97 kV.
The ratio of signal to noise for each voltage is show below:
You need to add error bars and make measurements at additional voltages ( measure for every 5 volts if error bars can tell the difference between each voltage)
It is noticed that increasing the voltage decreased the signal to noise ratio unless it is within the error bars, also increasing the voltage of the GEM from 2.87 to 2.97 kV does not affect the noise signal ratio, but it increases the charge detected which is expected as main characteristic for the GEM preamp. (results are same using both definitions of signal to noise ratio).
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2.97 | 8484, 8486 | 8483,8485
12/30/14 Determining the noise level using pulse shape and peak sensing discrimination simultaneouslyUsing an AND-gate for a peak sensing discriminator and a leading edge one is used to determine the relationship between the discrimination level and the the signal rate. Psensing spectra with an AND-gate output as a gate for the module
The LED disc. is used instead of the PS disc. to measure the Psensing charge spec., the following figure shows the result. the signal is amplified so it is higher than the noise level, but still the LED disc. is unable to distinguish between open shutter and closed one. the noise level is measured and it is 78 mV. (run 8445) The counts near channel 100 suggest that the leading edge discriminator is not rejecting noise that we called a pedestal event. 12/27/14 Peak shift with changing the GEM preamp. VoltageGEM3k peak sensing charge spectraGEM3k peak sensing charge spectra
12/24/14 Peak shift with changing the GEM preamp. VoltageThe following figure shows the peak shift in the Peak sensing charge spectrum as Drfit voltage is 700 V and the GEM voltage is changed as shown in the figure: The figure above shows the peak shift as the GEM preamp. voltage is 2.77kV and 2.9kV. the higher voltage for the GEM preamp., the higher charge collected from the detector. Also the noise peak rate at channel is less at a higher GEM voltage. 12/24/14 GEM_V = 2.82 kVcathode drift potential and count rate runs for 2.82kV GEM 12/18/14 Comparing increasing the GEM voltage 30 V to 2.9 KV
The results shows the integral under the charge spectra: The maximum rate for the first peak in case of open shutter and in case of the subtraction is shown below:
Increasing the the GEM voltage
The figure above shows that increasing the GEM voltage with 30 V does not change the amount of charge except for the drift voltage in the range of 500 to 700 V (increase) and 900 to 1kV (decrease). The first peak rate in increases when the GEM voltage increases 30 V as the drfit voltage in the range of 300-900 V as shown below: 12/15/14Data analysis, File:12 2 3 4 count rate cathV.xls 12/11/14you forgot to put possible reason for fluctuation in legend. Listing the possible reasons below is not informative Figure 1.) Open-Closed data , from 10/25/14 -> 12/9/14, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations.
Figure 3.) Closed data , from 10/25/14 -> 12/9/14, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations.
Figure 4.) Open-Closed data , from 10/9-present, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations. Figure 5.) Open data , from 10/9-present, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations. Figure 6.) Closed data , from 10/9-present, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations.
File:Laura De Nardo, Marchiori Elena, PhD thesis,Università degli studi di Padova, 2013/2014 There is an effect for the drift potential on the count rate as its value is less than 0.4 kV, one of the reasons that the drift force line ends on the surface of the GEM electrode, on the other hand, when the drift more than 0.4 kV, the drift force lines converge inside the hole. Another reason is in case of the drift potential is more than 0.4 kV, the probability of electron-ion recombination before the GEM electrode is less compared to the case when the drift potential is less than 0.4 kV. If the electric field is higher than 0.8 kV, the electric filed lines end on the surface, and the ones in the holes do not converge as much as in the case of of V_drift =< 0.8 kV, which cause an electron defacusing effect. File:Bachmann GEM charge transcfer properties driftE.pdf 12/10/14Three figures Figure 1.) Open-Closed data , from 10/25/14 -> 12/9/14, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations.
Figure 2.) Open data , from 10/25/14 -> 12/9/14, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations. Figure 3.) Closed data , from 10/25/14 -> 12/9/14, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations.
Figure 5.) Open data , from 10/9-present, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations. Figure 6.) Closed data , from 10/9-present, color code different days, legend indicates date and possible reason for fluctuations.
12/09/14
12/08/14 2.9kV GEMcathode drift potential and count rate runs for 2.9kV GEM 12/08/14The figure shows the drift voltage vs the count rate in another weekend. The graph is different from the graph taken by the previous weekend 11/29/14 as the drift potential is less than 350 V. as shown below
Investigate ionized electron transmission by looking at previous published studies of Cathode voltage differences. 12/05/14
The figure below shows the number of beta transmitted through 1 mm FR4, the collected data considers only the incident beta only without counting for primary electrons as result of the ionization through the shutter and without electron ionization in the gas in the drift volume.
The figure shows the count rate as the shutter is open (green), closed (red), and their subtraction (blue) as the drift voltage changes. The measurements were taken in the weekend. The figures above show the count rate in three different working days, the color refernce is as the figure above.
12/01/14The figure shows the drift voltage effect on the number of counts for shutter open (green), closed (red), and their subtraction (blue) I noticed:
11/29/14 Electron range in FR4The calculations considers the excitation energy for FR4 equals to 107.1 eV.[1], and composite is from the site [2] 11/2511/03-19 Ionization calculationsFile:Total ionization 3particles.xls 11/20/14A difference in the number is noticed after changing to the new bottle!!!!! 10/27/14Plot V -vs- RThe
V -vs- R graph seems to be jumping around a lot.
This may mean we need more measurements in order to determine if there is a smooth dependence or not
The energy is in the unit of MeV/amu which is relative to the atomic mass unit of hte target. In our case we are interested in Ar which has an amu = 40. 10/24/14Table of Histograms with NO SOURCE, shutter open and closed, and changing V cathode (750 Volts) Plot the rate of all three particles from source onto one plot
Plot transmission by taking ratio of (Number particle through shutter)/(Number of particles hitting shutter) Plot Energy loss ( 100 * )10/23/14Table of Histograms with NO SOURCE, shutter open and closed, and changing V cathode 10/22/14Long run peak sensing histograms 20min run peak sensing histograms 20 min. GEM-2.87 kV CATH-3.435 kV 10/17/14you need to label the axis and color code the statistics box so I know which distribution corresponds to which configuration. 10/16/14you need to label these histograms with more detail that will identify the run number and the run conditions. Name each histogram according to the run number then in a figure caption identify the run conditions. you need to show more than just 4 runs, try to take 10, why is the pedestal peak different in the four that you show. You need to have units of Hz for the count rate on the y-axis. I should not be asking you for the above things at this stage of your career, you should be doing hem automatically I am not giving any formal results yet since the voltage of the GEM may increase. The point is to able to understand what is plotted and have a reference to fall back on Formal results will be even more detailed
10/14-15/14
The repcentages do not add to 100% according to two different references.[3][4] they add to about 20%, the first referece bentioned that the average energy for the emitted particles from U-233 are
Egamma (eV) : 1.110210e+3 (1.076780e+2) Ealpha (eV) : 4.888350e+6 (2.896760e+4)
Add plot for expected voltage on oscilloscope.
10/13/14stripchart
paragraph describing percentage plots for alpha, beta, and gamma with references.
10/10/1410/02/14QDC's and Peak sensing's spectra distinguish between shutter open and shutter close as the source is on, I noticed it from yesterday's and today's measurements. Also the spectra shows a difference in the number of count and the number of channels as the source on or off as the shutter is open. more measurements is needed to calculate the STDEV.
09/30/14Plot of shutter open/closed (NO SOURCE) counter rate -vs- date
Plot of Number of electrons collected -vs- Energy of (alpha, beta, and gamma) from U-233
[K Paludan et al 1997 J. Phys. B: At. Mol. Opt. Phys. 30 L581 doi:10.1088/0953-4075/30/17/005 ]
09/29/14
[6] The reference gives percentages of the emitted alpha particles as U-233 -> Th229 File:Alpha percentages.txt
U-233 metal deposited source is measured by Protean Instrument corporation gaseous detector, has a model number of WPC9450 (serial number: 0915723)and uses (P10) gas mixture, as shown below:
Rate of ( alpha, photon, beta) -vs- energy for U-233 Primary electron ionization -vs- (alpha,photon, beta) energy
The reason that the graph started from 30 keV is the lowest gamma energy emitted by U-233 or Cf-252 is higher than that energy.
09/20/14The figure below shows the change in the signal as the GEM capacitor charges, at a specific fixed voltage it reaches saturation (equilibrium), If the capacitor does not reach equilibrium, the signal of the detector is expected to change with time.
What may forbid the GEM capacitor to reach the equilibrium?
Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research A 471 (2001) 151–155 File:Gas electron multiplier for portal imaging wallmark.pdf The author commented in the conclusion "The studies show that GEMs can operate at extremely high rates (>10^6 Hz/mm^2) with no sign of degradation and stability loss due to radiation damage. However, it was discovered that the maximum achievable gain for all planar gaseous detectors drops with the beam intensity " "In real clinical operation the detector can operate safely with a gain of 10^2 in the GEM closest to the collector". Our detector has a rate of 100-170 Hz (without and with the source), considering the detector age, will this rate cause an instability?
The gain will decrease when the count rate increases, if GEMs' voltage is at the point where gain is stable with the high rate, the detector output will be reproducible. As mentioned above, a gain of 10^2 made it enough for imaging with a well-quenched gas, I doubt we need to increase the gain more than that. 9/18/14Determine best Cathode HV that produces the largest separation of the source ON/OFF signal. The detector results are not reproducible, as the voltage is at 3.4 kV, the QDC spectrum is different as the source on; so QDC can not distinguish if the source is on or when it is off the detector. Something is wrong!!!! We never have a reproducibility problem before using the QDC until I start using V1495, Can we borrow the older module just to test the reproducibility is still a problem. It is very unlikely that it is the v1495. The V1495 only tells the DAQ to read out a module. You can test the DAQ by injecting a pulse with a known charge and look for it in the QDC spectrum. It is VERY important to have scope pictures showing the difference between source ON/OFF. Then you use scalers to check that your trigger pulse is able to see a difference between source ON/OFF Then you do the DAQ measurements. If you don't follow the above proceedure then you will be building a pyramid on quicksand. The same case when the cathode voltage increased to 3.6 kV.
9/17/14Measure the charge for several values of the Cathode HV keeping the GEM preamplifier voltage and gas flow rate constant.
All the runs have the same duration 20 min.
Try to take scope picture to show difference between source on and off signal that are being measured by the QDC. 9/16/14
Shutter is Open Red is Cf-252 source ON Run 7724 Green is Cf-252 source OFF run 7726 HV_GEM= -2930 Volts HV_Cathode=-3400 Volts Gas Flow rate = 0.1 ft^3/hr
Change the Cathode voltage to try and turn off the signal when the source is on.
Yes, when the cathode voltage is decreased to -3100V, QDC histogram does not show any difference in the collected charge as the shutter is open with the source on it, and when the shutter is open without the source.
The figure below shows the change in the QDC spectrum when the cathode voltage is -3.2 kV. |