TF Project JeV 1989
Budget
Cost | Item |
7,000 | http://hpevs.com/catalog-ac-75-27.26.htm 96 Volt AC75 motor + controller kit |
4,000 | http://www.canev.com/batteries.php Lithium batteries > 30 3.2 volt 300 Ah |
3,000 | Battery Management |
850 | adapter plate |
Design
ac50
Probably use two AC 50 motors in series with separate packs
Midvale Utah distributor $7454
http://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/650-Amp-HPEVS-AC-50-Complete-AC-Vehicle-Kit_p_143.html
Cost | Item |
4300 | AC 50 motor, controller, & harness from http://www.electricmotorsport.com/store/ems_ev_parts_motors_ac50.php |
6300 | 96 volt, 100 Ah lithium battery pack http://www.electricmotorsport.com/store/ems_ev_parts_batteries_lpf_gbs_kit96.php |
Motor- transmission adapters
See http://www.canev.com/KitsComp/Components/Adapter%20page.htm
Battery Management system (BMS)
Orion and Elithion are two polular controller manufacturers
http://elithion.com/comparison.php
ac75 ac150
http://hpevs.com/catalog-ac-75.htm
Liquid cooled lcm150
http://www.acpropulsion.com/datasheet/LCM-150.pdf
Forum for AC75
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/hpevs-ac-75-data-79186.html
References
EV discussion list
http://www.evdl.org/index.html
http://avt.inel.gov/index.shtml
Builds by others
Kris motors
http://krissmotors.blogspot.com/
Eric Tischer's AC conversion
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/ac-conversion.html
CRx (1989-1991) Honda CRX/del sol
VWs
GEO tracker
* Ground clearance: 7.9 in. * Curb weight: 2238 lbs. * Wheel base: 86.6 in.
http://eastidaho.craigslist.org/cto/2378173601.html
Toyota MR2 (1985-1989)
http://www.amphibike.org/index.cgi?page=pages/3_wheels/mr2
Electric Power plants
Below are the motors and generators you want for the EV
Electric conversion kit
ReVCon
http://www.revconversions.com/electric_vehicle_conversion_products-jeep.htm
REVConversions is the only conversion company that has been able to successfully convert 4-wheel drive all-electric Jeep Wranglers that function and shift properly in every gear in both high & low range driving modes.
The first Wrangler conversion that was made for the Jeep Tour Industry retains the automatic transmission. The 160-volt drive system (twenty 8-volt batteries) drives a Warp-11 DC motor with our own proprietary forced-air cooling system.
The first Wrangler conversion kits are available for immediate delivery.
For Pricing and to Order: Contact Us
Verde Sustainable Energy, Inc.
Ian Wickson (President)
Bruce Berkson (General Manager)
Phil Brown (Production Manager)
250 Cherry St., Suite B
Cottonwood, AZ 86326
Office: (928) 282-0101
Cell: (928) 254-0196 Fax: (928) 649-0102
Email Us: phil@revconversions.com
CANEV
http://www.canev.com/KitsComp/Universal%20Kit/universal%20kit.htm
Motors & Controllers
Spec | siemens-1pv5135-ws18 [[1]] | mes-200-330 | AC-50 [2][3] | Baldor TE MR-50 | 2.5 L 4 cyl AMC 150 mopar |
Inverter DC voltage (Volts) | 520-900 | 185-400 | 130 max | 72-96 | |
Rated RPM | 3500 | 2850 | 3500 | ||
Max RPM | 10,000 | 9,000 | 6500 | 5000 | |
Rated Continuous Power (kW) | 61 | 40 (400 V 100 A or 200 V 200 A) | 20 (130 VDC 650 A; 15 Hp) | ||
Peak Power (kW) | 150 | 87@5000 RPM | 49 (67 Hp) @ 3000 rpm | (50 hp) | 60 kW (80 bhp x 0.75) @ 3000 rpm |
Rated Torque (Nm)@phase current (A) | 160@145 | 130 | (150 ft lbs) | (150 ft lbs) | |
Peak Torque (Nm)@phase current (A) | 370 @ 300 | 300 | 110 ft-lb | 183@ 3500 RPM | |
Max Current (A) | 400 peak / 282 RMS | 362 | |||
Weight (kg) | 90 | 80 | 115 lbs | 490 lb | |
Diameter (cm) | 24.5 | 23.5 | |||
Length (cm) | 42.5 | 47.5 | |||
Cost (USD) | 9161 | 7138 | 4620 (4390) | 4700 + 7700 | |
AC power inverter | ? | MES TIM-600 ($5995) | Curtis Regen model 1238-7601 | Curtes Regen 1238R-7601 | |
HP/Torque curve | Torque curve |
http://www.azuredynamics.com/products/force-drive/documents/AC90_DMOC645ProductSheet.pdf
http://www.azuredynamics.com/products/force-drive/documents/AC55_DMOC445ProductSheet.pdf
The AC motors have controllers which convert a DC source to an AC voltage with variable frequency to drive the motor speed. Motors work best at higher DC voltages.
File:EV AC motor Performance Comparison.xmgrace.txt
Open source AC motor controller blog
Luminati configuration
The engine compartment includes: +99 Thundersky 4.25 volt lithium iron phosphate batteries (TS 100AH) = approx. 32 Kwh +200 horsepower MES DEA electric motor: MES 200-330 induction (compare to Chevy Volt’s 149 HP motor) + Manzanita Micro PFC-40 (220v, 40 amp off board charger will charge the car overnight) charger + MES-DEA – TIM600 (100kW) inverter
DC power supply
440 AC input with 60 kW output (0-600 Volt , 0-100 A)
A 1500 lb box with dimensions 44 x 27 x 33 " ( 4 ' x 2' x 3')
http://www.us.tdk-lambda.com/hp/product_html/emhpower.htm
Metric Mind motors
http://www.metricmind.com/category/ev-ac-drive-systems/ev-motors/
http://www.metricmind.com/products/mes-200-330/
http://www.metricmind.com/products/siemens-1pv5135-ws18/
90 HP Siemens AC motor for Ford Ranger
http://www.commoditiesrecoverycorp.com/electricmotors.htm
http://www.zuglet.com/ev/fordsiemens/fordsiemens.html
Electric Motor Sport
http://www.electricmotorsport.com/store/ems_ev_parts_motors_ac-induction.php
Kosov AC motors
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmotors/kostovevmotors%28ac-dc%29/
AC propulsion
http://www.acpropulsion.com/products-drivesystem.html
Warp -11
The 160-volt drive system (twenty 8-volt batteries) drives a Warp-11 DC motor.
20 batteries => Try the US battery 8VGC-XC (Length : 10-1/4” (260mm) Width : 7-1/8” (181mm) Height : 11-1/4” (286mm) )$150 each => $3000; change after 650 cycles; assuming about 80 miles/charge => 650 * 80 < 52,000 miles => 17 miles/$
If 30 mpg * 1g/$4 = 7.5 miles/$
Cost of electricity to charge batteries at $0.1 per kWh (in idaho its 7 cents)
kWh = 10^3 Watt * hrs = 3.6 \times 10^6 Joules = 3.6 \times 10^6 Coul * Volts
130 Amp*hrs = 469,000 Coul
160 Volt * 469,000 Coul = 7.5 \times 10^7 Coul * Volt = 1 cycle of charge
cost per charge = $0.1 * 3.6 \times 10^6 / 7.5 \times 10^7 = $0.005 ??? too cheap must be mistake somewhere
$2,673.75
http://www.revoltevc.com/motors/warp11.html
TransWarp-11
$3,105.00
http://www.revoltevc.com/motors/transwarp-10.html
(72 Volts*453 Amps= 33 kWatts =43.7 HP of power ; using 18, 8 Volt batteries => 227 Amps)
$2,175.00 controller http://www.revoltevc.com/controllers/netgain-controlls-warp-drive-dc-controller.html
$145.00 gas pedal http://www.revoltevc.com/controllers/netgain-controls-hepa.html
$300.00 liquid coolant system http://www.revoltevc.com/controllers/netgain-controls-liquid-cooling-kit.html
DC-9
The advance DC-9 that was used in this application is about $1550. The only alternative to that motor is the Netgain WarP-9 which is $1675.00. The Curtice controller is about $1500. There are others but not really sure about prices and specs. There are very few that can handle the high voltage and current that an EV conversion has. There is one controller that is the Rolls Royce of controllers Called the Zilla2000 with Hairball interface. These monsters can handle far more current and voltage than the Curtice can, it can also be programed to function on a given curve and limit the maximum current that it will allow through it. This controller is around $6000 with the interface. There really isn't a cheap way to do it so the thing will be drivable and reliable.
Zilla
Zilla motor controllers. He has an electric 914 that has 800ftlbs of torque at zero RPM
Soliton1
http://www.evolveelectrics.com/Soliton1.html
Batteries
Zinc-air
http://www.electric-fuel.com/evtech/index.html
Nano phosphate ext
http://www.a123systems.com/products-systems-energy-core-pack.htm
http://www.a123systems.com/lithium-ion-battery-technology.htm
Lithium
A123 system battery packs(currently not selling packs To consumers)
http://www.a123systems.com/products-systems-energy-core-pack.htm
lithium iron phosphate
Recharging in minutes not hours?
http://electriccarinternational.com/
http://kostov-motors.com/tractionmotors/kostovevmotors%28ac-dc%29/lithiumbatteriesbmsandchargers/
http://lithiumpros.com/products/
http://www.valence.com/energy-storage/xp-12v-19v-lithium-phosphate-battery-module
Thunder sky (now called Winston Battery) 4.2 Volt
http://thebackshed.com/basiclynatural/ViewItem.asp?CL1=17&CL2=53&id=49
http://ev-power.com.au/webstore/
http://ev-power.com.au/webstore/index.php/12v-4-cell-100ah-lfp-battery-module.html
http://elitepowersolutions.com/packages.html
Lead
Typically it takes 15-20 lbs of lead to achieve 1 mile in range. A Rule of Thumb is that 1/3 of the EVs weight should be batteries; the other 2/3 represents dead weight (i.e. frame, suspension, body, motor, etc).
If you want to have 1/3 to 1/2 of the finished weight in fuel; then the initial curb weight of the vehicle should be less than 3000 lbs. The 1991 Jeep Wrangler Renegade (YJ) has a gross vehicle weight of 3090 lbs to 4700 lbs.
http://www.acterra.org/ev/files/batteries_1.html
Try the US battery 8VGC-XC $155
Generator driven EV
http://www.polardcmarine.com/polarpower/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/26Kw_Brochure_LowerRES.pdf
See solution #2
http://www.evconsultinginc.com/articles/hybridizing_dc_system.html
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/generator-direct-power-ev-distance-48794.html
http://www.evconsultinginc.com/articles/hybridizing_dc_system.html
EV racing
http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/
http://www.thecoreiv.com/products/25.html?Itemid=15
Portable generators
- The generator should be rated to at least 40 kW
http://catalog.ameritempltd.com/viewitems/temporary-power/industrial-standby-generators?
PTO units
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/power/40-59-kw-540-rpm-pto-generators.html
http://www.voltmasteramerica.com/products/tractor1800.htm
http://www.hardydiesel.com/pto-generators/dl/Winco_PTO_Generator_Specs_W11PTOS.pdf
Diesel engines for PTO
YANMAR DIESEL ENGINE 90hp
Diesel Generators
Perkins 4.236 Diesel Powered Generator $6750
Diesel Electric
Phone: [801] 972 1836
Address: 652 West 1700 S,Salt Lake City 84104 Utah
Model: ElectroPak: complete unit with radiator ...
Power Zone Equipment (Center, Colorado near Alamosa)
http://www.powerzoneequipment.com/
Industrial Generators from Trans Atlantic Diesels, Inc
http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.com/Used-Generators
Gasoline Generators
$3k
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200379773_200379773
Maybe 2 17 kW generators
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/power/10000-plus-watt-portable-generators.html
trifuel
http://www.trexgenerators.com/Winco-HPS12000HE-10800-Watts-TriFuel-Honda-Engine-p-1053.html
Example
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/portable-generator.html
Accessories
charging connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772
Hitch
http://www.etrailer.com/hitch-1989_Jeep_YJ.htm
rear bumper with hitch
trailers
http://www.fthr.com/flatbed-commercial-utility-trailers/
Removing vaccum from transfer case
Wrangler Forum
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f8/vacuum-shift-motor-inexpensive-fix-87568.html
From Wrangler Forum
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f8/by-passing-frt-diff-4wd-vacuum-78334.html
1. jack up right frt. tire and place on jack stand
(easier if not done on a day that snow is not packed on your jeep...lol)
2. unplug vacuum lines from the shift motor actuator and cap off you will not need them any more .
3.remove the four bolts holding shift motor on and remove it (don't forget to have a pan or towel on the floor to catch the very amount of lube that will come out)
4.now look at the axle see how the collar slides over to connect the two axle's together? you might have to turn the right tire a little as you use your finger to slide it to left all the way as the splines line up now your frt. diff is locked into fwd. ( that's a good thing for a jeep)
5.now take apart the shift motor.take a marker and put a dot on one side of the fork and a dot on the matching side of the housing so you will remember what way the fork faces( trust me it saves time..lol) remove the two e-clips holding the shift fork shaft in place and pull shaft out. discard everything but the shaft,fork and big e-clip
6.now put the shaft with the fork back in the housing (no e-clip yet) and move the fork all the way to the right that is where it is when the 4wd is locked in ( remember the collar you slide to the left to lock the axle's together?)
7. now get a spring or fuel line (like i did) and cut it to take up the space on the shaft so that the fork can not move to the right ( and yes the spring or hose needs to fit over the shaft and I am sorry i did not measure the length or i.d for ya but heck you need to do a little of the work yourself) tip: if you use a piece of hose it needs to be fuel and oil resistant ( mine has been set this way for two years)
8.after you get the spacer cut right put in the e-clip so the shaft won't come out.
9. reinstall on the diff. using a little gasket sealer or a new gasket and your almost done. top off the lube if you feel like the little bit that came out is a bad thing.
10. you are now done and have a much improved 4wd set up. you will not notice a drop in mpg, no change in handling ( transfer case disconnects the frt. drive). what you will feel is a good feeling knowing your frt. axle really is locked in when it's needed ( yep even when it is -7 degree's like it is here to day)
Vendors
Logan Utah vendor
British Columbia company
EV power systems South Carolina
http://www.evpowersystems.com/
http://www.ddmotorsystems.com/
http://www.electric-cars-are-for-girls.com/