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An Inelastic collision conservers Momentum But Not energy
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An Inelastic collision conserves Momentum But Not energy
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:<math>\vec{P}_{\mbox{initial}} = \vec{P}_{\mbox{final}}</math>
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Consider a collision between two bodies of mass <math>m_1</math> and <math>m_2</math> initially moving at speeds <math>v_1</math> and <math>v_2</math> respectively.  They stick together after they collide so that each is moving at the same velocity <math>v</math> after the collision.
 
Consider a collision between two bodies of mass <math>m_1</math> and <math>m_2</math> initially moving at speeds <math>v_1</math> and <math>v_2</math> respectively.  They stick together after they collide so that each is moving at the same velocity <math>v</math> after the collision.
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:<math>m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2 = \left (m_1 + m_2 \right ) v</math>
 
:<math>m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2 = \left (m_1 + m_2 \right ) v</math>
  
Given that the amsses and initially velocities are known we can solve for v such that  
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Given that the masses and initially velocities are known we can solve for <math>v</math> such that  
  
 
:<math>v= \frac{m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2}{m_1 + m_2}</math>
 
:<math>v= \frac{m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2}{m_1 + m_2}</math>
  
[[Forest_UCM_MnAM#Inelastic_Collision_of_2_bodies]]
 
  
 
= problem 3.4 two hobos=
 
= problem 3.4 two hobos=
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a.) Find the final speed of the car if both men run and jump off simultaneously.
 
a.) Find the final speed of the car if both men run and jump off simultaneously.
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At the instant the hobo jumps off with speed <math>u</math> the railcar will move in the opposite direction at some speed <math>v</math>.  Since the hobo's speed is relative to the car, the hobos speed relative to the ground is <math>u-v</math>.
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;conservationof momentum
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:<math>\Rightarrow 0 = 2m(u-v) - Mv</math>
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or
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: <math>v = \frac{2m}{M+2m}u</math>
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b.) Now consider the case where they jump separately.  The second hobo starts running AFTER the first hobo has jumped off.
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Break the problem up into the two parts
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PART A: The first hobo jumps off
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;Conservation of momentum
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:<math>0 = m(u-v_1) - (m+M) v_1</math>
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:<math>v_1 = \frac{m}{M+2m}u</math>: no factor of 2 like before
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But now the second hobo jumps off
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:<math>m(u-v_1) - (m+M) v_1 = m(u-v_1) + m(u-v_2) - (M) v_2</math>
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: <math>-(m+M)\frac{m}{M+2m}u=  mu- (M+m) v_2</math>
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: <math>(M+m) v_2=  mu + (m+M)\frac{m}{M+2m}u</math>
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: <math>(M+m) v_2=  \frac{m(M+2m)+m(m+M)}{M+2m}u</math>
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: <math>(M+m) v_2=  \frac{m(M+2m+m+M)}{M+2m}u</math>
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: <math>(M+m) v_2=  \frac{m(2M+3m)}{M+2m}u</math>
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: <math> v_2=  \frac{m(2M+3m)}{(M+2m)(M+m)}u</math>
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if written in terms of the velocity from part (a)
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: <math> v_2=  \frac{2M+3m}{2M+2m}\frac{2m}{M+2m}u =\frac{2M+3m}{2M+2m}v</math>
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The flatcar will be moving faster if the hobos jump off separately.
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[[Forest_UCM_MnAM#Inelastic_Collision_of_2_bodies]]

Latest revision as of 15:40, 15 September 2014

An Inelastic collision conserves Momentum But Not energy

[math]\vec{P}_{\mbox{initial}} = \vec{P}_{\mbox{final}}[/math]


Consider a collision between two bodies of mass [math]m_1[/math] and [math]m_2[/math] initially moving at speeds [math]v_1[/math] and [math]v_2[/math] respectively. They stick together after they collide so that each is moving at the same velocity [math]v[/math] after the collision.


If there are no external force then

Conservation of momentum
[math]m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2 = \left (m_1 + m_2 \right ) v[/math]

Given that the masses and initially velocities are known we can solve for [math]v[/math] such that

[math]v= \frac{m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2}{m_1 + m_2}[/math]


problem 3.4 two hobos

Two hobos are standing at one end of a stationary railroad flatcar of mass [math]M[/math]. Each hobo has a mass [math]m[/math] and the flatcar has frictionless wheels. A hobo can run to the other end of the car and jump off with a speed [math]u[/math] with respect to the car.

a.) Find the final speed of the car if both men run and jump off simultaneously.


At the instant the hobo jumps off with speed [math]u[/math] the railcar will move in the opposite direction at some speed [math]v[/math]. Since the hobo's speed is relative to the car, the hobos speed relative to the ground is [math]u-v[/math].

conservationof momentum
[math]\Rightarrow 0 = 2m(u-v) - Mv[/math]

or

[math]v = \frac{2m}{M+2m}u[/math]

b.) Now consider the case where they jump separately. The second hobo starts running AFTER the first hobo has jumped off.

Break the problem up into the two parts

PART A: The first hobo jumps off

Conservation of momentum
[math]0 = m(u-v_1) - (m+M) v_1[/math]
[math]v_1 = \frac{m}{M+2m}u[/math]: no factor of 2 like before

But now the second hobo jumps off

[math]m(u-v_1) - (m+M) v_1 = m(u-v_1) + m(u-v_2) - (M) v_2[/math]
[math]-(m+M)\frac{m}{M+2m}u= mu- (M+m) v_2[/math]
[math](M+m) v_2= mu + (m+M)\frac{m}{M+2m}u[/math]
[math](M+m) v_2= \frac{m(M+2m)+m(m+M)}{M+2m}u[/math]
[math](M+m) v_2= \frac{m(M+2m+m+M)}{M+2m}u[/math]
[math](M+m) v_2= \frac{m(2M+3m)}{M+2m}u[/math]
[math] v_2= \frac{m(2M+3m)}{(M+2m)(M+m)}u[/math]

if written in terms of the velocity from part (a)

[math] v_2= \frac{2M+3m}{2M+2m}\frac{2m}{M+2m}u =\frac{2M+3m}{2M+2m}v[/math]

The flatcar will be moving faster if the hobos jump off separately.

Forest_UCM_MnAM#Inelastic_Collision_of_2_bodies